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The perfect scenario for a meme: 1. The Marlins struggling this offseason signing a cheap backup 1B, a cheap bench-LH bat, and a cheap platoon OF for DLC. 2. Khaby Lame meme showing Troy Johnston picture. I really would like to think they will do everything the can to sign Bellinger... But that's a clown statement.
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That sentence had a huge part of sarcasm. They are supposed to know better than all of us since they have all the required information at the reach of their hands, but there is no other explanation to think why for example Sixto or Groshans have a roster spot over Johnston. Draft picks over the last 5-ish years only confirm that this organization needs a profound renovation from bottom to top, and this roster decision is yet another example of the gigantic transformation Mr. Bendix has to face for the next couple of years.
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Interested in submitting your own FanPosts? Leave a comment on this article with your preferred email address and we will set things up! At the end of this post, there is some rant about the Rule 5 protection deadline. Let us get through what is factual right now and then we can vent later on. After going through the main needs for next season, namely C, SS, and SP, the Marlins cleared the air a bit more this week by protecting some of their Rule 5-eligible minor leaguers. On Wednesday, the Marlins decided to include on their 40-man roster Anthony Maldonado and Victor Mesa Jr. These moves can give us a better understanding of how the FO is going to approach the rest of the offseason. https://fishonfirst.com/news/marlins-select-victor-mesa-jr-anthony-maldonado/While some other roster fronts can be upgraded (RH reliever, LH bench bat, defensive OF), efforts will probably be now focused on improving the backstop position, acquiring a starting SS, and potentially an innings-eater SP. Offering contract extensions to core players should also be on the agenda, but fans never know what to expect from the shallow-pocketed Chairman (far from being true, Sherman). Let us work with what the team has today. The official roster breakdown for the current 40-man is the following: Starters: Sandy Alcantara, Jesus Luzardo, Braxton Garrett, Eury Pérez, Edward Cabrera, Trevor Rogers, Max Meyer, Ryan Weathers (8) Relievers: Tanner Scott, Andrew Nardi, A.J. Puk, Steven Okert, Huascar Brazoban, JT Chargois, George Soriano, Anthony Bender, Bryan Hoeing, Sixto Sánchez, Josh Simpson, Anthony Maldonado (12) Catchers: Nick Fortes, Jacob Stallings* (2) Infielders: Miguel Amaya, Luis Arraez, Josh Bell, Jon Berti, Jake Burger, Xavier Edwards, Jordan Groshans, Garrett Hampson (8) Outfielders: Peyton Burdick, Jazz Chisholm Jr. Bryan De La Cruz, Avisail Garcia, Victor Mesa Jr., Dane Myers, Jesus Sanchez (7) Designated Hitters: None. For a total of 37 players, that leaves 3 spots available ahead of the Rule 5 Draft in early December and the rest of the offseason. As countlessly mentioned, there are flagrant improvement opportunities at C and SS. Another SP is highly recommended, as is another RH reliever. In the hypothetical case all those positions are fulfilled with players from other organizations, which players are now the most probable to lose their roster spot? A friendly reminder that later today (Friday 6:00 p.m ET) is the non-tender deadline, where the Marlins face some decisions. They might have one or two extra roster spots available afterwards. Based purely on performance, Stallings is the most obvious candidate to be non-tendered even though his contract is not particularly expensive. After him, other non-tender candidates are Sixto, Okert, Groshans, and Burdick. Sixto probably threw his last pitch within the organization after showing an 85-mph fastball in this past season. That is the only inning he has thrown in a professional game over the last 3 years. There is no reason to keep protecting him and most probably no team will claim him to offer a ML roster spot. As a fan, one really wishes Sixto can come back, but awarding him a roster spot at this point is indefensible. Peyton Burdick had 37 PAs this season in Miami, striking out 18 times. While he still hit 24 HRs in Jacksonville, he also punched out at a staggering 36.6% rate. It is very difficult to defend such production but to be fair, he didn't get an extended evaluation with the big team. All hope was lost when this season Jazz got injured of a turf toe and the FO decided to bring Davis from Detroit, knowing that Burdick could man the position. Jordan Groshans' prospect pedigree fell off a cliff after 2021. He was highly regarded while in Toronto, and the Marlins learned the hard way why the Blue Jays weren't bothered that much by trading him away. He hit 6 homers in 460 ABs this season, and his OPS finished the season at .669. With some depth in the positions he can play (3B and 2B), his roster spot is simply put, unjustified. In the unlikely scenario that the Marlins need another roster spot, Okert is probably the odd man out in a highly effective, heavy LH bullpen that also includes Scott, Nardi, Puk and potentially Simpson. He didn't have a terrible season (4.45 ERA in 58.1 IP with 73!! Ks and inducing a lot of weak contact), but other teams would value him more. Okert is entering his first year of arb projected to make a mere $1.2 M. Speaking of Simpson, himself might not be completely ruled out as a DFA candidate, ditto for Myers, however unlikely in both cases. Rule 5 Protection Deadline None of us can grasp what happened on Wednesday. The Marlins had 5 roster spots available to protect Rule 5-eligible prospects. The sure thing for all of us was to include Troy Johnston, with Maldonado as the distant secondary priority. After them, Mesa Jr., Will Banfield, and Nasim Núñez were the other realistic possibilities. Instead, the Fish chose to protect only Maldonado and Mesa Jr., leaving us in disturbing awe. Why not protect Johnston? The message this organization sends to any minor leaguer is that, you can crack your back an entire season and even win the Organizational Offensive Player of the Year, but that won't guarantee you an ML roster spot. Perhaps they know something about him that we don't. My humble opinion is that, even if he cannot hit MLB pitching, he deserves a roster spot over at least 5 players currently on the 40-man. To the eye of the inexperienced, it makes no sense. But again, they know better for sure. It is almost certain that any of Oakland, Washington, Pittsburgh, or even Detroit will claim Johnston in a couple of weeks; not so sure about any team claiming Banfield or Núñez, though. Can the strategy be preparing to "steal" some unprotected prospects from other organizations because they don't fully trust their own? Next week we will analyze unprotected Rule 5 prospects across the league that can be useful next season and worth considering for the Marlins if still available at their draft position. Having that many roster spots available is probably the silver lining of such a poor minor league system. Comments are much appreciated and see you all next week! Photo by Kelly Gavin/MLB Photos
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I thought Brown was a great signing last season, but the Marlins still ranked in the bottom half in many offensive categories. The team showed some improvement, though. As a coach or manager, continuity is very important and he should have continued with the team. Now just promote the batting coach from the Jumbo Shrimp.
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Interested in submitting your own FanPosts? Leave a comment on this article with your preferred email address and we will set things up! In the third installment of the Marlins' offseason needs series, starting pitcher is about to step to the plate. After addressing two obvious pressing needs for the coming season, acquiring a SP is less urgent given the number of internal options currently on the team, though both injuries and inconsistencies still make us think that a dependable arm is probably a good idea. https://fishonfirst.com/fanposts/marlins-offseason-needs-catcher-2023-24/https://fishonfirst.com/fanposts/marlins-offseason-needs-shortstop-2023-24/Let us start with what is in place as of today. Without Sandy Alcántara next season, Jesús Luzardo, Braxton Garrett, and Eury Pérez are locked as starters. Then the team has Edward Cabrera, who had an up-and-down season but finished more or less on a high note. After him, Trevor Rogers and Max Meyer come to mind, who were absent all or almost all of the entire 2023 season. Lastly, Ryan Weathers' debut in Miami was not ideal yet he left a good impression in that outing vs. the Pirates in the last game of the regular season. There are another 2 or 3 options in the organization, but they'll be discussed later. There are so many questions about that group. Will Eury be ready for a full season (170-180 innings)? Will Eddy's unsustainable walking rates continue to prevent him from being a reliable starter? Are Rogers and Meyer going to be on an innings limit next year? Is Weathers once and for all ready? So much uncertainty is the main reason why the team's brand new POBO, Peter Bendix, might be pressed to acquire a so-called "Innings Eater." As in previous FanPosts, let us explore some names in different categories available. Free AgentsContrary to what both C and SS have to offer this offseason, the list of available starters via free agency is deep. Unfortunately, great options will come too expensive for the always frugal Marlins, which means you can forget about the Ohtanis, Yamamotos, Nolas, etc. Allow me to present you 5—in my opinion—very realistic options for joining the Fish next season: 1. Michael Lorenzen—coming from a mixed-bag season where he was pretty solid with Detroit, but faded away after some great starts in a Philly uniform. Never an innings eater, he reached a career high 153 frames last season. He will turn 32 soon and will be looking for 2 or 3-year deals, maybe in the $12-15M /yr range, which is affordable for the FO. He also has extensive experience in the bullpen and can turn into a swingman if the youngsters improve their game. https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2023/2023-08/03/05702b98-99181859-3cb54351-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_16000K.mp42. Kyle Gibson—the ultimate back-of-the-rotation, all-innings-you-can-eat, I-don’t-care-about-your-5.00-ERA guy. He did exactly that last season piling up another 192 innings for the O’s at a much better than Cueto’s 4.73 ERA. He did that during his 35 years old season, netting $10M. Since he already turned 36, he can get maybe a two-year at around the same price tag. 3. Kenta Maeda—roughly half a year younger than Gibson, Maeda offers less durability but more quality than the previous suggestion. One can think that Maeda will get a similar contract as well, probably a tad higher AAV. 4. Jack Flaherty—the Cardinals—and to be fair, most of the baseball world—expected Flaherty to become the next Waino in St. Louis. Never panned completely out but everyone can see he has the stuff and makeup to be a top rotation guy. I place him 4th here because he just turned 28 last month and even though he should be looking for a short-term redemption contract (like Bellinger this year), some teams will offer him $15M+ annually with multiple opt-out clauses. That can be a bit outside the price limit for the Fish, but hey, still doable. Makes a lot of sense for both parties even with the injury history behind him. 5. Wade Miley—another 36-year-old with some injury history. Miley has a notorious pattern: Starting in 2017, he is throwing 120+ innings in odd years, while 80 or less in even years. Kind of weird, nah? But still, his ERA over the last 3 years have never been above 3.37. Another swingman profile cheaper than Seth Lugo or Nick Martinez. Unconventional Free AgentsThis subset of pitchers were not in the big leagues last season, but had great results in foreign leagues. All of them are drawing attention to some extent. 1. Erick Fedde—the longtime Washington National jumped over the pacific ocean last offseason looking for a different approach to his arsenal and it paid off, having one of the best seasons for a pitcher in the Korean League ever: a sharp 2.00 ERA in 180.1 IP, coupled with 209 K. Maybe a one-year guaranteed deal with a second -ear option for less than $10M AAV can lure him to come back stateside. https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2021/2021-08/24/2897fdba-67391e32-c4a314ab-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_16000K.mp42. Trevor Bauer—the always controversial Bauer is reportedly receiving tons of attention lately. After settling the sexual harassment allegations brought against him, he looks ready to make a comeback. He had a 2.59 ERA in 156.2 IP for Yokohama in Japan. Is Bauer a good fit for Miami? 3. Yariel Rodriguez—the Cuban-born also pitched very well in Japan but last pitched in 2022. His contract can definitely be in the Marlins range but he never threw more than 96 innings in the last three seasons, therefore probably not the best fit. Spring Training Invitees with Intriguing ProfilesBetting on Mel’s magic to help them taking a step further in their rough careers. None of them should come expensive. 1. Brad Keller—a talented starter through the Royals system who showed some promise. Keller pitched more than 130 innings in both 2021 and 2022, allowing more than 5 ER per 9. This season he suffered a should injury in May but made it back with the team in September, pitching 2 innings as reliever, finishing the season with 45.1 IP and a 4.57 ERA. 2. Chris Flexen—after back-to-back solid seasons in 2021-22, Flexen’s production plummeted this year. He’s still capable of providing 100+ innings of 5.00+ ERA, still younger than 30 and can contribute both as either starter and long reliever. 3. Jake Odorizzi—missed the entire season due to a shoulder injury, which is a big red flag. However, this can be a low-risk, high-reward move if he proves to be healthy. Odo has been around average starter over the last decade, and may look for a short-term deal with lots of incentives based in appearances or innings pitched. Trade TargetsIt is very difficult to find a team with a surplus of SP, in fact, the Marlins might be one of them. It is even more difficult to name a specific trade target, so the focus is turned into teams instead. Here three potential trade partners for starters are presented, adventuring to propose the best trade target in each case. One more thing, if the Marlins are going to pull a trade, the area where they have kind of a surplus is pitching. That means, trade targets here must be acquired over a pitching-pitching swap. With a very decent bullpen last season, one can think the Fish can consider trading pieces like JT Chargois, A.J. Puk or even Tanner Scott. 1. Cleveland Guardians are the AL version of the Miami Marlins: lots of young controllable starters working for a below-average offensive team. Entering his last year of arbitration, Shane Bieber can be intriguing for a team like the Fish as well as for every other team. He made $10.1M this season and should get a rise in his last year of Arb, an affordable rise for the Marlins. After him, Cleveland’s depth chart has 7 potential starters. 2. Toronto Blue Jays have the best quartet in the big leagues is pretty much safe: Gausman, Berrios, Bassitt and Kikuchi are almost locks, barring injuries. After them, the Jays have some interesting options, that’s a reason to believe they can listen to offers for Alek Manoah. (With all due respect, Manoah reminds me a lot of the late José Fernández.) 3. The Seattle Mariners are the most loaded team in terms of SPs, they have already 7 starters in their depth chart while Robbie Ray should be ready to join them this coming Spring Training. Marco Gonzales is clearly the odd man out and by making $12.25M next season with a team option of $15M for 2025, the Marlins would be doing the Mariners a favour. As a matter of fact, a Gonzales/Avisail García trade is not a terrible idea for either team. Internal OptionsSeveral Marlins players were mentioned at the start of this post as leading candidates to cover all the rotation spots. Beyond them, there are a few other players who made progress this year and can be stretched as starters for some spot starts, but clearly not for a full season. George Soriano and Bryan Hoeing were solid coming out of the bullpen, and even starting one and seven games, respectively. Jeff Lindgren started 17 games for the Jumbo Shrimp and can get a shot if some injuries happen. Chi Chi González, Devin Smeltzer, Daniel Castano, and Enmanuel De Jesus all left the organization already via minor league free agency. Next week we’ll discuss the 40-man roster construction right after the Rule 5 protection deadline. What do you think? Comments are always welcomed. Photo by Dilip Vishwanat/Getty Images
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FanPost: So, what now? Keep swimming.
Hans Herrera replied to Hans Herrera's topic in Miami Marlins Talk
This FanPost is aging quite well! Bell is back, Soler is gone, and the FA money seems reasonable. Let's see what Bendix does with a limited yet interesting budget to assemble a competitive team. -
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Interested in submitting your own FanPosts? Leave a comment on this article with your preferred email address and we will set things up! With their brand-new World Series title, the Texas Rangers have officially opened the offseason. Congratulations to all those Texas fans whom had waited more than enough for the glory. This post comes also after Jorge Soler opted out, but we were all expecting that, right? Now, in case you missed it, an analysis of the catcher situation was presented last week. Today, another pressing need will be discussed: shortstop. During the season, Joey Wendle played 107 games in the position, by far the most for any player on the roster, followed by Jon Berti (64 games), Garrett Hampson (30), and Jacob Amaya (3). Playing Wendle as their main starter hurt the offense badly. This season, the Marlins ranked last in the MLB in OBP, SLG, and OPS from the position, while ranking no higher than 24th (AVG) in any offensive statistic. Wendle is now a free agent and it is improbable the Fish will bring him back. By using the same approaches as in the previous post, let’s analyze how to get better this offseason. Free Agents (5)This is probably the weakest class of free-agent SS ever. Here is the list of players available, and none of them can be seen as a substantial improvement over Wendle. Nevertheless, here are some potential players to be considered: Amed Rosario: He led the group with a 89 wRC+ in 2023 and is the youngest of all available players at the position (turning 28 later this month), and that’s about it on the positive side. In his profile there is no skill that jumps off the chart: he is a fast runner, poor fielder, who doesn’t strike out that much. Over the last 3 years, he has had an xBA over the 70% percentile, suggesting some bad luck. He is capable of providing a .270/.310/.400 season, which is acceptable but unenticing. https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2023/2023-04/23/a4af6327-0b16deef-41c96f45-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_16000K.mp4Elvis Andrus: Has more or less the same profile as Rosario, but the differences are that Andrus is not a terrible fielder, and at 35, he’s not fast anymore. Andrus had a nice bounce-back season in 2022 but seems like it was a fluke. Andrus is not an everyday SS anymore. Kiké Hernández: He is still 32, can play any position except P and C, and had a great season only two seasons ago, but like Andrus, he is not an everyday solution there. You can peg him in the same player profile as the previous two. Paul De Jong & Nick Ahmed: The list is so bad, that you have to consider players who batted a bit less terribly than Wendle, but their defense can play every day. Both DeJong and Ahmed ranked as Top-90% percentile SS last year in OAA, and are average or better in DRS. Then comes the bad news: a wRC+ of 66 and 51, respectively. There is a list for shortstops with min 200 PAs last year, out of 49 qualified players, Wendle ranked last in wRC+, while DeJong was 42nd and Ahmed 47th. Enough said. Trade Targets (5+2)Using the same two premises from the previous Post: there should be some kind of excess of the position on the other side of the transaction, and awareness of the Marlins do not possess a lot of trading material, so forget about blockbuster trade targets. Here are some potential trade candidates: Geraldo Perdomo: The D-backs just won the National League pennant, so why would they trade their starting SS? There are some realistic reasons to think about. Starting the season, Perdomo shared the position with the aforementioned Ahmed because even though Perdomo is a switch hitter, he has no power batting righty, resulting in a wRC+ of 62 compared to a 105 when batting lefty. The Perdomo-Berti split platoon would be a great way to address the six. In addition, Arizona has uber prospect Jordan Lawlar and MLB-ready Blaze Alexander already on the 40-man roster, so the team can go more or less the same route the Astros went with his Peña after Correa. Behind Gallen, Kelly, and Pfaadt, Arizona has more questions than answers when it comes to SP. If the Marlins can convince the Snakes, maybe another Jazz-for-Gallen-type trade can be on the table. Maybe they were one starter away from winning it all. Luis Rengifo: There is some hesitancy about Rengifo being able to play SS, as he is ranked below-average defender when manning the position. However, the Angels’ farm system is even worse than the Marlins, and they are always kind of desperate for pitching, especially now after Ohtani not pitching next year, whether he is back with the team or not. Their roster has also Zach Neto, Livan Soto, and Kyren Paris on the roster, all young and capable, making Rengifo somehow expendable. Jorge Mateo: So many times the Orioles look like the perfect trade partner for the Fish. Mateo is an OK fielder with tons of speed but lacks hard contact and strikes out more than enough. His splits vs LHP are above average and he is due to reduced playing time because of Henderson and Ortíz, not to mention that Jackson Holliday shall be ready at some point mid-next season. Ortíz (more about him later) is another trade candidate if they decide to keep Mateo. Tommy Edman: The same reasons a trade for catcher Iván Herrera can apply for Edman. The Cards don’t HAVE to trade him, but they need a lot of help when it comes to pitching. They also have Masyn Winn as a starter late in the season and Brendan Donovan, capable of playing there. Finally, Kyle Farmer: He is not a natural SS, but he played OK in 40 games there last season. The Twins have Correa, Lewis, and Lee coming next season. Farmer will not come expensive, as next year is his last one for arbitration. Another two players that can somehow be traded are Ezequiel Duran (TEX) and Kevin Newman (CIN), but they are also better suited as utility players. Newman in particular is a strong trade candidate since the Reds’ infield is LOADED, with Noelvi Marte as the next prospect up. Out-of-the-box options (5+2)Here is where the front office gets “creative” (even though there is no front office at the moment). Some Rule 5 draft targets are considered. Anderson or Báez-for-García trades: Swapping ugly contracts has become popular in the last few years. Even though Tim Anderson had a KO-year (both figuratively and literally), he is still one year away from being an All-Star. The trade with Javi Báez is just not happening, but if the Tigers are desperate and send at least $70 M back to Miami, then they can talk. José Barrero (CIN): Remember that the Reds’ infield is loaded? Well, there is little to no hope for Barrero reaching the big leagues on a regular basis if he stays with Cincinnati. Barrero hit 19 HRs with Louisville in 2023, had a wRC+ of 110, and .873 OPS, and also has played a handful of games at SS over the last 4 seasons in the big leagues, but never posted an OPS+ over 67. Looks every bit like an AAAA player, but maybe a change of scenery can help him out. Ernie Clement (TOR): Another player with some experience in the big leagues but somehow blocked within his organization. Clement had a tremendous cameo this past season, posting a 144 for both wRC+ and OPS+ in 52 PAs, but he’s still blocked by Bo Bichette and top prospect Orelvis Martínez. Alika Williams (PIT): Williams posted a .915 OPS at AAA, so the Pirates gave him 112 PAs late in the season, producing a 43 wRC+. Not encouraging, but he is blocked by Oneil Cruz, Marcano, and Peguero. Joey Ortiz (BAL): Barring injuries, Ortíz has no chance of competing with Henderson, Holliday, and Mateo. He was excellent in AAA this season (121 wRC+, .885 OPS), getting him into the big team for 34 PAs, and producing an ugly 26 OPS+. Davis Wendzel (TEX) and Weston Wilson (PHI) are a couple of Rule 5 draft eligible who don’t really have much else to prove in AAA, but won’t get a chance to reach the big team. The former hit 30 HRs this season but comes with a low BA. The latter was rewarded with 22 PA this year in Philly, having led the International League with 31 HRs this season. At 29, seems unlikely that he will get a fair chance, so profiles as a depth piece. Internal Options (5)The dreadful Wendle output obliged Skip Schumaker to bet on Berti and Hampson to cover the SS during the last week of the season, while the Wild Card berth was on the line. The bet paid off, especially from Berti, who went 10-for-19 and hit 3 homers in that 6-game span. Counting both players, they had an unsustainable output of .368/.500/.684 with a wRC+ of 216 during those games. Both ended the season with an wRC+ just above replacement level, 103 for Jon and 101 for Hampson. However, this is a friendly reminder that both players are better suited for the utility role. Berti is slightly the better defender with +3 Outs Above Average and +1 DRS, while Hampson qualified for -1 OAA and DRS +3. Out of 68 SS with a minimum of 50 attempts at the position, Berti ranked 17th while Hampson was 41st. Berti will be 34 next season and is due to some regression. Hampson had some stints where he didn’t hit at all. Are the Marlins ready to trust a pivotal position to the them two? Jacob Amaya is already on the 40-man roster, but despite having hit 15 HR this season with the Jumbo Shrimp, he still ranked below average in terms of wRC+. Amaya seems every bit like Miggy Rojas 2.0, and that’s absolutely fine considering none of the options above is extremely exciting. Jazz Chisholm Jr. would be returning to the position he was developed in his minor league career. Jazz started awkwardly in CF, but looked more and more comfortable along the season. It will not require a huge challenge for him to come back to the infield, but in the innings he has spent there, his ranks peg him as a below-average fielder with -9 OAA. Nasim Núñez needs to be added to the 40-man roster during the Rule 5 draft. There is some chance that he will, but most probably Nasim will be left unprotected and no other team will claim him, and the reason is simple: he still profiles as a glove-first bench-utility infielder, and there are tons of them. He should join the Jacksonville team next season. That is 20+ realistic options to address the SS blackhole the Fish suffered from last season. Would be nice to hear from you what would be your route moving forward. Photo by Rob Tringali/MLB Photos
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Offishial news, 11/3/23: So long, Soler; vote for Nuñez
Hans Herrera replied to Ely Sussman's topic in Miami Marlins Talk
Of all those players mentioned in the Marlins Maniac article, the only one I say would be a good addition is Victor Caratini. Anderson would be a good option if the White Sox decline the club option, but that one is hard to take given the weak free-agent SS list this winter. Belt can also be interesting but I rather give a chance to Johnston.- 3 replies
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Interested in submitting your own FanPosts? Leave a comment on this article with your preferred email address and we will set things up! In 2023, the Marlins had the worst catcher tandem in baseball when it came to offensive production. Although there are not many complaints about the other side of the ball, their slash line was so bad that to stay put would be catastrophic. Nick Fortes had a mixed bag regarding defensive metrics. Out of 63 qualified catchers, he ranks 3rd in blocking and 22nd in framing, but 50th in throwing and 70th in pop time (out of 81 C's). That means, he is doing fine with his glove, but well below average keeping base-stealers in control. FanGraphs ranks him 15th out of 78 catchers in DEF. However, Nick had a year to forget with the bat. Last year he showed some promise and so in early 2023, his slash line was .250/.300/.351 by June 21, which was his highest OBP for the rest of the season. Right after that day, he went into a 0-for-23 slump and his OBP never reached .600 again. He finished the season with a .204/.263/.299 with 6 homers and 26 RBIs in 323 PAs, bad for an ugly +52 OPS. Nick is pre-arbitration eligible and even has two options left, so there is no rush to cut him loose. Jacob Stallings wasn’t good at hitting nor catching. Although he ranked 12th in Blocking, he also went 44th both in throwing value and pop time (out of 81), and 56th in Framing. His cause got even worse every time he stepped up to the plate. His final slashline was very similar to Nick’s: .191/.278./.296 with 3 homers and 20 RBIs in 276 PAs, yielding a +54 OPS. Stallings also pitched 8 innings in blowout games allowing “only” 4 runs and 1 K, but that one remarkably being over Ronald Acuña Jr. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CsbghJJp74R/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==MLB Trade Rumors projects his arbitration salary to be around $3.6M, which seems steep for his overall contributions. There is a consensus about Stallings being non-tendered, and the decision is surely not because of the sum, but purely because of the added value, or the lack thereof. Let us explore some options for improvement. Free AgentsHere is the list of pending free-agent catchers this offseason. Unfortunately, good quantity but not a lot of quality. Each of them have some type of caveat that makes one wonder if they can actually fix the current problem. The list is into three categories: 1. Best optionsThis group can grab the main job because of their overall profile, pushing Fortes into a backup role. Mitch Garver: This is the best option for teams that are looking for a bat-first catching option. He does have some injury history and he is not particularly good with his mitt, but after a season hitting .270/.370/.500 with 19 HRs and 50 RBIs in 344 PAs, he should get the largest contract by AAV of his career. It is improbable that the Marlins will beat other richer teams for his services, like Texas or San Diego, for example. Tom Murphy: Another bat-first, often injured, poor glove option, who strikes out a lot but comes with a lot of power. Over the last 4 seasons, he has accounted for an OPS+ of 128 or more in three of them, being 2021 the exception (84 OPS+), when he had a career-high 325 plate appearances. That can tell you something about his durability. Victor Caratini: A well-rounded catcher with some mixed marks in both offense and defense. Caratini just turned 30, and he’s the youngest of the free agents here mentioned. Since he is not particularly good at anything, shouldn’t be expensive. Expect a .650-.700 OPS guy with fine pitch framing. 2. Solid if duties are sharedNot good nor terrible bats if they can split the starting role. Yasmani Grandal: Despite a great season in 2021, his best days are well in the past. He can be a solid backup catcher with OBP skills and occasional pop. He still blocks and frames well but has one of the most ineffective arms for catchers in the MLB. Diminishing his workload can be good for him (caught 92 games), and some reps at DH will help with that. Gary Sánchez: Surprisingly, Sánchez had good defensive marks this past season, and he has always been known for hitting the ball hard…when he hits it. Expect tons of K's, not many walks, but also, some mammoth home runs. Sounds a lot like Jorge Alfaro with better framing/blocking. 3. Glove-first backupsThey won’t produce much better than Stallings, but their defense will cover some of that. You bring them if your bet is on Fortes having a bounce-back season. Austin Hedges: Ever since Hedges broke into the big leagues, he has been one of the best defensive catchers in the game. Despite being 31, he still ranks above average or well above average in most catching metrics. His bat, though, produced a 24 wRC+, the lowest for any batter with 200+ PAs. (Side note: On that list, Wendle is 6th, Segura 9th, Fortes 11th, and Stallings 14th. How did the Marlins even make the postseason?!) Martin Maldonado: The Astros main catcher will be a Free Agent after the World Series, with Houston probably transfering the main catching duties to Yainer Díaz. Maldonado had a great season behind the dish (except for framing), and can be a solid mentor to both Fortes and the young pitching staff. TradesThe free agent list is not that alluring, so let us explore some trade opportunities. As every time a trade is proposed, there should be somehow an excess of the position on the other side of the transaction. Why would a team trade his only good catcher on their roster? Another comment here: the Marlins do not possess a lot of trading material. Top prospects or potential tradeable players are either far from reaching the big leagues or have some injury concerns. That said, let’s jump into some potential trade options: Kyle Higashioka (NYY): The Yankees are one of the few teams with 4 catchers on their 40-man roster. José Trevino will regain his starting role, and Austin Wells held onto the role in a small sample. With Ben Rortvedt as a depth option and with nothing to prove in AAA, Higashioka seems expendable, especially entering his last year of arbitration. He is not a lot of improvement over Stallings, but at least he finished the season over .680 OPS. A swap with Stallings plus a low-key prospect, maybe? Riley Adams (WSH): The intra-division rivals are starting to come down the rebuilding curve, but they can still sacrifice some pieces for the right price. This trade will come expensive because Adams hit very well last year and is still pre-Arb. Nevertheless, it won’t require a blue-chip prospect. Iván Herrera (STL): The Contreras/Knizner tandem had some miscues last season, but the Cards are so desperate for pitching that they will need to do something about it, and the Fish can help with that. The Panamanian “cousin” would also require a good haul, but still doable. Tucker Barnhart: Before this season, Barnhart was a good example of a glove-first backup catcher. Solid defensive grades, and a below-average bat. His last two seasons have been awful, and he has a $3.25 M player option to stay with the Cubbies next season. He’ll probably stay looking for redemption in a contract year, but the Cachorros will gladly trade him. Out-of-the-box ideasJames McCann (BAL): This is another potential catcher-swap scenario, where teams can bet for a change of scenery. McCann is entering the last of an expensive 4-year contract, so the O’s will have to send some money down to 305. Shea Langeliers (OAK): Langeliers is the perfect example of a "not happening" trade. Although Oakland is rebuilding and can trade almost any player, Langeliers is one of the few building blocks and would require a package of Cabrera, Meyer, and maybe another two top-30 prospects. Not happening, but hey, wishful thinking. Austin Barnes (LAD): The homegrown draft pick had a terrible, terrible season, batting for 36 OPS+, but before that, he was a decent backup catcher. The Dodgers need to be creative to trade Barnes, but the Marlins can welcome him if a good prospect is attached. LAD is not trading Cartaya, and they also have Feduccia done with AAA and waiting for a big-league chance, making Barnes very much expendable. The Minnesota Twins have a pair of catchers eligible for the Rule 5 draft in Chris Williams and Jair Camargo. Williams is more of a 1B who can catch, and Camargo is a full-time catcher who was tied for second among catchers in HRs (21) at AAA level. With Jeffers and Vazquez holding the catching duties in Minneapolis, there might be a chance to scoop one of them if they leave are left unprotected. There are more examples of good-yet-blocked AAA catchers: Johnny Pereda (CIN), Ronaldo Hernández (BOS), and Milwaukee's Alex Jackson and Peyton Henry (kidding! they both had good seasons, though). Internal OptionsThis is the easy part, as there is not a lot you can do. Will Banfield led the Southern League in homers (23) and needs to be added into the 40-man during this winter’s Rule 5 draft. Although not a sure thing, he did enjoy a solid season (wRC+ 100) and looks ready to play with the Jumbo Shrimp. Paul McIntosh doesn’t have to be added to the roster in the Rule 5 draft until next year, and he can use some more defensive seasoning in JAX after missing a good chunk of the season due to injuries. The Banfield-McIntosh tandem looks like a good bat-glove combination for the future. In case you were wondering, Austin Allen was the one who led all catchers in AAA (tied with Brian O’Keefe) with 23 round-trippers. His catching abilities are not MLB-level, and by turning 30 in January, it seems a long shot that he can get an opportunity in Miami. There is another internal option: Just stay put. It is not crazy to expect some rebound from both Fortes and Stallings, especially after such a bad season. Can it get worse than that? Probably not. Still, this approach should not be popular, and with the many options out there, the status quo seems a bit insulting. Thanks for reading! I know is a lot, but this subject must be addressed properly. As always, comments are much appreciated. 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Josh Bell's decision is not so straightforward. This year, he was below average before coming to the Marlins (4 months); was on a tear in August and then just fine in September (.740 OPS). I mean, he has been traded during midseason for two consecutive years, and there has been a good half and a bad one. Luckily, the Fish got the good part this season. And then you look further back and you find a good 2021, a bad 2020 (who didn't?), a tremendous 2019 (who didn't?), an OK 2018, and a good rookie 2017 season. In general, he has been inconsistent throughout his career. For sure teams will look into that he elects to be a FA. I believe that's kind of the reason he didn't get "a bag" last winter when he signed for the Guardians. Maybe he should try to have a solid season in Miami and then hit Free Agency again. On the other hand, he is not gonna get any younger and there will be some big-spending teams needing a 1B this offseason: NYY, SEA, HOU, LAA, and CHC, for example. Apart from Bellinger, there are no superstar power Free Agents... I think he stays because there is not a lot of difference hitting the market if you are 31 or 32, but there will be a difference if you come off a career season or not.
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FanPost: So, what now? Keep swimming.
Hans Herrera replied to Hans Herrera's topic in Miami Marlins Talk
I'd do the same as you but probably with different names. I will get into it in detail, but there are several SPs who can give the team 150-170 innings for 10 or fewer million. About the catcher, I do like Caratini; Gomes will probably be out of the market since the Cubs will for sure pick up his option. About the SS, I think the best way to address it is via trade or just promoting Amaya. In general, I'd spend $20M as 10 in an SP, $5-ish M for C, trade for a glove-first SS (Mateo) or maybe exchange ugly contracts like Avi for Tim Anderson, and the rest in a good RH reliever and a couple of buy-low relievers (hello, Alex Reyes and Jimmy Nelson). Troy Johnston will immediately be added to the roster; Amaya is a maybe, depending on a possible trade. -
Interested in submitting your own FanPosts? Leave a comment on this article with your preferred email address and we will set things up! More than enough has been said and written about the unexpected departure of Kim Ng. There is no need to further deepen into the subject, and if any of you still have questions about what happened, Wednesday’s interviewing Craig Mish is highly recommended. That said, it is time to move on. All this fuzz about directive changes makes one wonder what the strategy would be moving forward for this franchise. This writer believes, and somehow confirmed by Mr. Mish in the aforementioned interview, the team will continue the small-market approach for years to come. Farm system strengthening, international scouting and player development improvement, and conscious spending are the avenues to drive into for the next 5 years. BudgetBruce Sherman will continue running this team with a frugal budget, even knowing that financially, the conditions should be better than in late 2017 when he took over. Granted, the Fish has a projected 2023 payroll budget of $106 million, sitting 22nd in the Major Leagues between the D-backs and Reds. For reference, the average payroll for MLB teams this year is $166 million. It might be reasonable to think that the budget can go up to the $110-115 million range and would be surprising if it reaches $120M. Player OptionsUpcoming player options will define that projected budget for next year. Soler will certainly opt out, and Miami will have to decide whether to extend a Qualifying Offer or not. Most likely Miami will offer him a QO, and Soler will decline it. The Marlins will then at least secure a draft pick compensation, coming in very handy given the weakness of their farm system regarding position players. In Bell’s case, that is a 50/50 as of today. If he stays, then there is one less problem to think about. If he does not, then the humble opinion here is that Troy Johnston will take over the 1B job, with Arráez sliding to first base as a backup plan. Arbitration ClassThe arbitration class is also a major factor. Out of 13 players coming, Jacob Stallings is the one most certain to not be offered a contract. There are another 3 or 4 players who might be non-tendered, but those players will not represent more than $4 million combined. If curious, you can have a look at the arbitration class here. In total, the arbitration class projects somewhere between $35-40 million, around a third of the total payroll. Spotrac has estimated the 2024 payroll at about $118 million, but it includes full salaries from Bell ($16.5 M), Cueto ($10.5 M), Soler, Barnes ($9M each), and Stallings ($3.6-3.8 M projected); those players will not be on the roster next year, at least not with the same salary (except for Bell, hopefully). Free Agent-Spending BudgetTaking all of this into consideration, there is still a free agent spending window of around $15-20 million for 2024. With identified improvement opportunities in C, SS, and at least one SP, to mention the most important ones, it does seem a steep quest to vanquish this winter. One of the necessities can be addressed, perhaps two. Three? That might be a stretch. Keep Swimming UpstreamWith a depleted farm system, a tight payroll, a team without a General Manager, and a pitching-rich-yet-injury-plagued rotation, there are a lot more questions than answers before the Winter Meetings this early December in Nashville. Expect quiet meetings for the Fish, and probably not much will happen apart from the contract options, QOs, non-tender deadlines, and the Rule 5 draft. Yes, that means no trades, no free agents, no surprises before New Year’s. Let’s hope this is wrong. Play General ManagerThere is a lot of fun in playing with somebody else’s money, so let’s play a game: If Sherman hires you as the brand-new GM and given the payroll and roster limitations described above, how would you approach this winter in terms of roster construction? What would be your 26-man roster entering next season? Conditions are: Bell stays, but Soler, Cueto, Stallings, and Barnes are out. You have $20 million for signing free agents next year. I read you in the comments section. Starting next week, the focus will shift to the roster and its biggest needs. Again, comments are much appreciated. Photo by Ron Jenkins/Getty Images
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Can anyone please explain me, as to a little kid, what is the difference between a POBO and a GM? I have googled it, but still cannot get it. It does look like the GM hires/signs/fires/releases players, coaches, scouts, etc... more involved in roster/team construction. A POBO oversees the "big picture", which means business, sponsorships, media contracts, academies, among others. Am I wrong? In case I'm not, how is the POBO over the GM in a hierarchy? To me, it does look like they are not mutually exclusive. As a matter of fact, they look pretty different positions.
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The Marlins just cannot catch a break when it comes to ownerships. Good lord.
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Kim Ng not returning as Marlins GM
Hans Herrera replied to Ely Sussman's topic in Miami Marlins Talk
Following the previous FanPost, I was planning to make the Kim Ng extension analysis this week, but I guess there is no reason to do so anymore. It is too early to clarify what actually happened, but for sure it will come to light in the next couple of days/ weeks. I'm baffled. I wish her the best in her future endeavors. -
Interested in submitting your own FanPosts? Leave a comment on this article with your preferred email address and we will set things up! This is the beginning of a post series to share views about the Marlins’ upcoming offseason. What went right, what needs to be improved, glaring needs, roster composition, free agent and trade targets, prospects and farm system, among others, will be discussed. Since we are sitting on the side while the postseason develops, this post series will begin by ranking the priorities for the organization after the last game of the World Series. Here is a friendly reminder that this is the writer’s point of view, and the reader has all the right to think otherwise. Discussions are encouraged so please, state yours in the comments if needed. Here is the ranking of priorities for this offseason: 1. Extend Kim Ng. Players are the most important part of the team. For the sake of the game, a team can go through a season without a GM. So why did Kim get the top priority? Well, ever since Derek Jeter left, fans could feel the change in their mindset. Every time she speaks to the media a fan can tell her professionalism, experience, structure, and most importantly, always speaks with caution. Never heard of her saying “We are going to win it all,” but more, “We always look for better ways to make sustainable improvements, make this team better not just this year”. She knows the roster is still one or two years away from truly competing, maybe then she can go for it. Even though this was his contract year, she made moves to bring pieces for several years, e.g., Arráez, Burger, Scott, Weathers, etc. She is not perfect, especially when it comes to Free Agency (hello Cueto, Segura), but you can tell there is a project, and she is sticking to a plan. The message to Mr. Sherman is to do whatever it takes to keep her around. It does not make any sense to let her walk away after the most successful season in 20 years and being closer to having a couple of winning seasons in a row, and why not, have another championship. Let Kim cook. 2. Catcher. When it comes to players, this brief analysis will be complemented with dedicated posts about every specific position. For now, let’s state the obvious: the catching position sucked offensively. It was so bad that even though both catchers did more or less well behind the plate, they were (barely) next-to-last in OPS, last in SLG, and there was not a single offensive stat they ranked above 25th place. It was just miserable, and something needs to happen this winter. 3. Shortstop. Joey Wendle got the Lion’s share and unfortunately, he had a terrible season. By the season’s end, the position was split between Berti and Hampson, and although they fared well, that did not prevent the Marlins from finishing last in OPS, SLG, and OBP. Catcher is more urgent only because there are some people who believe the Berti/Hampson tandem can manage a whole season (disagree with, but won’t completely hate). The bar is just too low right now. 4. Starter. After Sandy went to Tommy John surgery, the rotation suddenly looked like an area of improvement. Cueto’s option most definitely will not be exercised. But the reason this is not higher on the list is that, on paper, the team still has Luzardo, Garrett, Pérez, Cabrera, Rogers, Weathers, and even the likes of Max Meyer, George Soriano, and Bryan Hoeing. However, the former three are the only ones with guaranteed rotation spots entering Spring Training—everyone after them has a sort of concern, whether is consistency, health, or lack of experience. A Cueto-type free agent starter is required (just not Johnny himself). 5. Right-Handed Reliever. We all enjoyed the Nardi-Scott combo, as well as Puk’s great first half of the season. None of those relievers are RHs, so the reason for Kim to bring Robertson. Unfortunately, it didn’t pan out even with his solid record before the trade. His performance in Miami will most probably avoid reunification, and the team will still need a right-hander. The team should look for a 97+ mph flamethrower, a Johan Duran-style kind of guy. The most reliable RH relievers on the roster were Chargois and Brazobán, but they don’t fill that profile. 6. Roster Depth. This is something to be discussed more appropriately after knowing the contract options from both Soler and Bell. In an ideal world, if they both stay then this team will be just fine after addressing the needs described above. But we all know Soler will opt out. There is a very good chance Bell will do the same, given the thin 1B FA market this offseason. As stated, it is a bit too early to discuss this, but an LH-bat, speedy, glove-first OF can also be very useful to this roster. Will Troy Johnston have a chance next year? If he can platoon a corner OF, play some 1B, and some other DH, he can be impactful next season. 7. Contract Extensions. The writer never sees this subject as extremely important and for sure most of you will disagree. But if the ownership stands by its word, this is a logical move. Two seasons ago, the FO was complaining about the broadcasting contract, stadium name rights, attendance, etc. There are no such revenue excuses anymore. Attendance improved and will keep improving if the team sends the right message to the fanbase. Arráez, Jazz, Luzardo, Eury…all extension candidates. At least 2 of them this offseason and 2 the next one, but it must be done. 8. Farm System. This is last on the list just because this takes more than one offseason, but the sooner they start, the better. A good thing Oz Ocampo joined the team, given his previous success in Houston. Can the Marlins somehow improve the scouting corps when it comes to position players? Time will tell. That’s it! 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2023 Marlins Season Review: Jazz Chisholm Jr.
Hans Herrera replied to Kevin Barral's topic in Miami Marlins Talk
Jazz needs to play at least one full season (130+ games) to adequately evaluate his trade value OR a contract extension. He has the potential to be a 30/30 player, no doubt about it, but until he does it, it's difficult to call him a "franchise player". -
2023 Marlins Season Review: Eury Pérez
Hans Herrera replied to Kevin Barral's topic in Miami Marlins Talk
If the goal next season is to throw 140-150 innings, I rather they start him slowly and then step on the gas down the stretch. He is way more valuable in September than in April. That said, and given Sandy's condition, he has to start the season in the rotation but limiting his innings per start to 4/5 innings, and skipping starts whenever possible. There is no doubt Eury belongs in the 2024 Marlins' rotation, but he must be handled with care. As of today, I'll start next season's rotation with Luzardo - Cabrera - Garrett - Eury - (Rogers/Weathers), just because I like to mix LHP-RHPs between starts. But this is something we will talk about for the entire offseason since we all know this rotation, despite its potential, is rather undependable.

