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  • Who's on second? Assessing the Marlins' best internal options at the position


    Louis Addeo-Weiss

    The Marlins have used 10 different second basemen in 2024, most of whom remain under club control.

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    The San Diego Padres have constructed a team full of shortstops. On the other end of the spectrum, there's the Miami Marlins, who lack a proven solution at the most premium infield defensive position. Instead, via trades, waiver claims and internal development, they have accrued considerable depth at the other middle infield spot, second base. Although this is not the backbone of a contending team, it's a positive development nonetheless to have a handful of affordable and controllable players with redeeming qualities.

    Ahead of the 2025 season, the Marlins can pencil in Connor Norby, Xavier Edwards and Otto Lopez as key infield contributors. Lopez has been their primary starter at 2B in 2024, while Norby and Edwards played the position frequently during their minor league careers. Utilityman Vidal Bruján has had the third-most 2B starts this year behind only Lopez and Luis Arraez, however, he's been a replacement-level hitter who has exhausted his minor league options. The Marlins may lean toward non-tendering him this offseason, in large part because of the emergence of Javier Sanoja, the versatile 22-year-old who earned the organization's Minor League Player of the Year award. Even Jonah Bride made a pair of starts at 2B, though he profiles as a corner infielder moving forward.

    Let's begin with Norby. He is a bat-first guy by way of a career .860 minor league OPS and a comparable .848 mark in the first 30 games of his Marlins tenure. He'll be a staple of their everyday lineup for the foreseeable future.

    Where to deploy Norby defensively? Two-thirds of his starts in the minor leagues (270 of 402) came as a second baseman, and his below-average arm strength suggests that second base would best suit him. So far with the Marlins, he has been at third base almost exclusively and graded out poorly there, amassing minus-4 defensive runs saved (a -24 DRS pro-rated over a full season). This past Sunday was an exception to the norm, but generally speaking, he's been plagued by inconsistency.

    Also worth noting, Norby started 59 MiLB games between both corner outfield spots. Perhaps he could emulate the career of Ian Happ and find a permanent home there if it's in the best interest of the team's defensive alignment.

    Edwards has filled the Luis Arraez-sized void atop Miami's batting order. All but nine innings from him on the defensive side of the ball have come as the team's shortstop. While he has seized the opportunity at the plate, Baseball-Reference (-12 total zone and -8 DRS), FanGraphs (-5.3 UZR/150) and Statcast (-10 OAA and 6th-percentile FRV) all paint the picture of him being miscast at SS. His average 79.6 mph throws from the 6-spot pit him 53rd among 58 different fielders to attempt an assist at the position.

    On the contrary, Lopez has graded out exceptionally well defensively, currently tied for fourth in total runs saved among second basemen, per Fielding Bible. The question is whether the volatility of his bat merits regular playing time, especially when there are suitable alternatives. He endured an 80-game homerless stretch from May 14-September 6 this season—his 60 wRC+ in that span ranked last among 153 hitters to take at least 300 plate appearances. Even with a solid finish to his campaign, Lopez has a mediocre 86 wRC+ overall.

    The Marlins must find creative ways to get their best possible position player talent on the field together without sabotaging their run prevention. The team was outscored by 223 runs through their first 156 games, in large part due to pitching injuries, but defensive miscues no doubt exacerbated the issue. While welcoming back Sandy Alcantara and others to the mound would raise the team's floor, aspirations of being genuinely competitive should be reserved until we see some evidence of Norby, Edwards and Lopez effectively co-existing on the diamond (and a larger sample of Sanoja's body of work).

    So, did we answer the question of "who" or "what" is on second for the Marlins in 2025? 

    In keeping with the classic Abbott and Costello bit, that is for you to discover for yourself.

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    I like the idea of giving Norby a try at shortstop and having Edwards at second while Otto plays a bench role/outfield, but I think they really need to get a shortstop this offseason that has the defensive caliber like Miguel Rojas or Ha-Seong Kim.

    Well, Norby is not a 3B. He can fake it, but he's not.

    Edwards is not a SS. He can fake it, but he isn't,

    López is among the best defensive 2B in the league, but he is a bench player.

    So why not stop improvising? Leave Burger at 3B, Norby at 2B, keep faking X at SS, and if needed, trade for a proper Major League SS. Bringing back Miggy Rojas is not a terrible idea, TBH.

    The coming FA class is incredibly thin for 3B and 2B: Only Alex Bregman, Ha Soeng Kim, and Gleyber Torres are bona fide starters, and the Marlins won't pursue any of them. Not to mention I do not expect any kind of FA signing this offseason.

    Sherman still owes 17M to Avi García. Sandy's contract is jumping from 9 to 17M. That is a 34M just for 2 players, one of them already out of the roster. Burger will have a significant salary increase... In summary, expect a bunch of minor league contracts with invitations to SP, crossing fingers to find another Jonah Bride, Calvin Faucher, or Adam Oller.

    Of course, the Marlins can "solve" the situation by promoting Sanoja, Ramírez, and De Los Santos to SS, C, and 1B, respectively. However, as much as I like them, they are inexperienced and should come with growing pains. But again, isn't this team rebuilding as we read?

    When will this team start giving their prospects a fair chance to establish themselves at a Major League level right out of Spring Training? Who was the last farm prospect who was handed a starting role right from ST? I honestly don't remember... not even Eury, as he had to wait until May to make his debut.

    Maybe play them early in the season and get an established player mid-way next season when the value of one of your SPs (Luzardo, Garrett, Eddy, Weathers) is at their peak?

    I foresee a boring offseason in South Florida. My hope is that the FO finally goes all-in with their MLB-ready prospects.. at least we will know if they are for real or not.

    On 9/22/2024 at 12:56 PM, Louis Addeo-Weiss said:

    The Marlins must find creative ways to get their best possible position player talent on the field together without sabotaging their run prevention.

     

    If it were up to me, I would field a guy that is consistent at hitting but not good with the glove over a guy who's consistent with the glove, but not good with the bat. Any day of the week. I don't care if Connor Norby has limited range, or commits miscues. If he can consistently rake, then let him play. We've got a bench for a reason. Use them for defensive replacements.

    I'm tired of people coming up with excuses not to play talented players. Been dealing with this crap since the Lewis Brinson era. If they're talented, let them play. Don't think about it. 

    And in addendum to the above statement, I heard sometime last year when a lot of people were calling for Troy Johnston to be called up to the majors, that he's not MLB-ready because his defense was bad. That was by far the lousiest excuse I have ever seen, and I will not let the writers here live that down for as long as I'm here. You're playing Luis Arraez. You're playing Jazz OUT OF POSITION. Your team has basically given up on the idea of defense. What does it matter anymore?

    Now he's leaving for Free Agency without getting a fair shot at the big league level on a team that was constantly losing 95+ games 2 years in a row and now shooting for 100+, because they now have Agustin Ramirez and Deyvision De Los Santos, both of whom profile as 1B/DH types, so they have no reason to hang onto Troy Johnston anymore.



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