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    The last couple of days have been exciting after a mostly quiet and boring MLB offseason. We saw important players like Juan Soto and Alex Verdugo both traded to the Yankees, Eduardo Rodriguez and Jeimer Candelario signing multi-year deals, Craig Kimbrel going to the Orioles, and the Winter Meetings closing with the Rule 5 Draft, where the Marlins lost Nasim Nuñez to the Nationals. Next up: Shohei Ohtani?

    The good news is that Troy Johnston will remain with the organization, and it is also important to highlight the 5 players selected by the Marlins in the minor league phase of the draft without losing any, somehow restocking the upper levels of the system. But that also tells you something about the quality of the minor system.

    It seems like the newly built front office is more worried about restructuring the managerial and coaching positions rather than acquiring players and addressing what the team needs on the field. So far this offseason, they have hired as many FO officials as players added to the 40-man, and none of the latter group can be tagged as “impactful."

    Now allow me to replicate what Ely posted several weeks ago, where he impersonated Peter Bendix and shared his vision of the 2024 Opening Day roster. There is still a deep pool of players the Marlins can acquire, but the proposed players here will be based on all previous FanPosts. Areas where the lineup is weak will be addressed under the premise of “long-term solutions” widely advocated by Mr. Bendix ever since he joined the organization.

    Cleaning the Roster

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    Transaction: RHP Sixto Sanchez, INF Jordan Groshans, and OF Peyton Burdick are designated for assignment.

    There is no indication that any of them will become regular MLB players in the short term and they have zero trade value. Hopefully, they will remain with the organization, but I have lost all hope in them.

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    The roster sits now at 36 players.

    Catcher

    Earlier this offseason I thought the catcher was the most pressing need. The catching situation got even worse after non-tendering Stallings and the current 40-man roster only has Nick Fortes as a catcher. Is now obvious that the Fish needs to acquire not only one but at least two other mitts.

    Transaction: Sign C Yasmani Grandal to a one-year, $4M deal with escalating incentives for plate appearances ($500k when reaching 400 PAs) with a $6M club option for a second year and $500k buyout.

    Transaction: Trade RHP Eli Villalobos for C Ben Rortvedt (NYY).

    Transaction: Sign C Austin Hedges to a minor league deal with good incentives ($2M salary) if he makes the Opening Day team.

    My first option was Caratini, but he signed with the Astros. Plan A is that Grandal will hopefully provide better ABs throughout the season, serving occasionally as a DH and backup catcher, plus some experience at 1B. If Hedges makes the team, it means that neither Fortes nor Rortvedt showed any improvement so can be sent down trying to figure out their problems. If Rortvedt makes the team, then Fortes will end up in Jacksonville and Hedges will hopefully continue with the organization.

    After the Yankees pulled the Soto trade, they lost Higashioka and 4 arms, but they still have 5 catchers in their 40-man so makes sense to try replenishing the minor league pitchers. If Grandal doesn’t sign, then Gary Sánchez. If Hedges doesn't sign, then Andrew Knizner. If Rortvedt is not traded, then go after Tucker Barnhart.

    The roster has now 38 players after adding Grandal and Rortvedt.

    Shortstop

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    There are some options in the current 40-man roster—Jon Berti, Jacob Amaya, and now Vidal Bruján—but none of them are regarded as everyday solutions at the position.

    Transaction: Trade LF Bryan De La Cruz and LHP Tanner Scott for SS Geraldo Perdomo and INF Tristin English (ARI). Perdomo will platoon(ish) the position with Berti when facing LHP. Will be somewhat costly, but in return the team gets a solid regular player with several years of control.

    I insist on the real possibility of acquiring Perdomo since the Diamondbacks have uber-prospect SS Jordan Lawlar almost ready to join the team. After having acquired Eduardo Rodriguez, they now need a replacement for Lourdes Gurriel Jr. in LF. Perdomo and DLC had a similar seasons in terms of OPS+ and wRC+, and while the former offers solid defense at a premium position, the latter has more power and is entering his prime years. It is probably an overpay, but I’ll try to get it done.

    Plan B: Trade SS Joey Ortiz for LHP A.J. Puk.

    Plan C: Just promote Amaya and share duties with Berti.

    The first option will settle the position for at least the next 3 years, the other 2 options come with uncertainty but both Ortiz and Amaya have nothing else to prove in AAA and the Marlins cannot do any worse than last year at the position.

    The roster goes back to 37.

    Starting Pitcher

    A reminder that the Marlins might be interested in an SP capable of 150+ innings throughout a season, especially if they decide to trade one of their own.

    Transaction: Sign RHP Jake Odorizzi to a one-year deal ($7M) with incentives based on innings pitched ($1M for every 30 innings pitched after 100 IP) and a mutual option for a second year at ($10M and a $1M buyout).

    I know, I know. Odorizzi is just coming from TJS, so it doesn’t make sense to consider him a “workhorse,” but before the surgery Odo threw a bit over 100 innings in both 2022 and 2021, at 4.40 and 4.21 ERA respectively. Between 2014 and 2019, he averaged 165 innings per season, so it is not crazy to expect some 120-140 innings of 4.50-ish ball. Just like it was expected from Cueto last year.

    Plan B: Sign RHP Michael Lorenzen to a 2-year, $22M deal. I just think he'll get a better deal somewhere else. Personal first options (Maeda, Miley) have already signed for other teams.

    The roster goes to 38 players.

    Other Positions to be Covered

    Some transactions have been completed, it is now time to round the active roster.

    Transaction: Trade LHP Trevor Rogers for OF Jake Fraley and LHP Sam Moll (CIN).

    Transaction: Trade minor leaguer RHP Luis Vizcaino for UTIL Kyle Farmer (MIN).

    Transaction: Trade LHP Steven Okert for minor leaguer RHP Braxton Ashcraft (PIT).

    After trading DLC away, there is a need to cover the corner OF position. Cincinnati has an excess of OFs, so I'll bring a solid big leaguer who might be the odd man out in the mix. Farmer is a replacement-level utility player who can play all over the infield and is that RH bat needed now that the OF is completely left-handed. After acquiring Moll, Okert became expendable, so bringing back a minor leaguer with good potential was on the table.

    That brings the roster to 39 players.

    Invitations to Spring Training

    Transaction: Sign Ps Shintaro Fujinami, Eric Lauer, Lou Trivino, Trevor Gott, Alex Reyes, Brad Keller, and Jimmy Nelson; 1B/OF Trey Mancini, C/OF Eric Haase, OFs Jesse Winker, Kyle Lewis; old friend 3B/OF Brian Anderson; INFs Nick Ahmed and Hanser Alberto to minor league contracts with an invitation to spring training.


    Summarizing, acquisitions are Grandal, Rortvedt, Perdomo, Odorizzi, Moll, Fraley, and Farmer; minor leaguers Baum and Ashcraft. Conversely, subtractions: Sixto Sánchez, Groshans, Burdick, Rogers, Okert; minor leaguers Villalobos and Vizcaino.

    And here is what the active roster would look like, followed by the rest of the 40-man roster after all the proposed transactions:

    • Starters (5): Luzardo, Pérez, Garrett, Cabrera and Odorizzi.
    • Relievers (8): Puk (CL), Nardi, Moll, Brazoban, Soriano, Bender, Meyer, Chargois.
    • Catchers (2): Fortes*, Grandal.
    • Infielders (6): Bell, Arraez, Burger, Perdomo, Berti, Farmer.
    • Outfielders (5): Fraley, Chisholm Jr., Sánchez, García, Bruján (out of options)*.

    *There are 2 roster spots that will be awarded at the end of Spring Training, with front competitors being Fortes vs. Rortvedt. Mancini, Lewis, and Anderson can be in the mix vs. Brujan, according to their performance.

    The rest of the 40-man:

    • Pitchers (7): Weathers, Faucher, Hoeing, Jensen, Maldonado, Ort, Simpson.
    • Position Players (5): Amaya, Edwards, Myers, Mesa Jr., and hopefully Rortvedt (out of options) or Fortes.
    • 60-day IL (1): Alcántara.

    As there is still one open spot on the roster, it will also be subject to performances during spring training with prospects Troy Johnston, Tristin English, Will Banfield, Patrick Monteverde, and Luarbert Arias as frontrunners, plus some of the aforementioned NRIs. I am also very intrigued by what Fujinami can do, and maybe Mel can “fix” him to become a late-inning weapon.

    A regular day lineup (vs. RHP) would look like:

    • Arráez 2B
    • Burger 3B
    • Jazz CF
    • Bell 1B
    • Fraley LF
    • Sanchez RF
    • Grandal / Farmer / hopefully Avi García DH
    • Fortes C
    • Perdomo SS

    In the end, the Marlins will have a weaker pitching staff by losing Scott and Sandy, but a more consistent middle-of-the-order lineup. The extra budget to the payroll would be around $12-15M, depending on bonuses, which is reasonable to expect from Sherman.

    Can this team make it to the playoffs next year? Comments are much appreciated.

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    I like Trevor, he is a great guy with a ton of potential. But the reality is that he hasn’t pitched well in two years and even though trading him now would be selling low, he is the one I would trade. Why?

    Sandy is not playing, Luzardo is the “ace” right now, Garrett is at his all-time high value, but also the team will need those 150+ innings; there is no way you trade Eury. That leave us with Cabrera and Trevor. If the pitching staff keep working on Eddy’s mechanics to fix his BB rates, he can be almost as good as Sandy, and he did that after coming back from AAA last season. So that leaves Trevor. This is a personal opinion, but I try to see the reality of the situation.

     

    Like Ely said, Trading him now for two young, controllable players who happen to be better than average (Fraley was better than DLC and Moll was better than Okert) is a good return entirely based on Trevor’s potential, not his present.

     

    The team still needs two bats, and I don’t really know how much Sherman is willing to spend, but I bet it won’t be more than $20M this offseason, so if you want to get better, you have to trade a pitcher away.

    There are two mistakes I made in the article: the first one is the list of player subtractions: Sanchez, Groshans, Burdick, Rogers, Okert PLUS Scott and DLC, and minor leaguers Viscaino and Villalobos.

    The second is about the payroll. Arbitration salaries from Okert, Scott and Rogers project near $8.5-9 M. Projected arb salaries from Fraley and Farmer project about the same. That means, the proposed signed FAs is the actual payroll increase, suggested at the $12-15 M depending on performance bonuses. However, with Soler, Stallings and Hampson gone (minus the increase of Bell’s contract), there should be another $5-7 M available for free agency, unless uncle Bruce sees this opportunity to reduce the expenditure.

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    Hello, Hans, and thank you for the insights (as always). It's fun to speculate and play GM! I suspect there will be no free-agent signings, especially over a few million dollars. Of course, with an ex-Ray in charge now, the surprises and under-the-radar moves are bound to come. Prognostications and specifics: I'd like a move to get a cheap, MLB-ready catching prospect such as Edgar Quero from the White Sox. I'm not much on older catchers, especially at four or five times the price (a la Stallings). Regarding shortstop, stay with our internal options instead of the low-end or middling guys out there for a lot more money. Come the trade deadline next season with the Marlins in a middling season, Bell will be going, Chisholm will be hurt, and our pitching value will be at a peak. Ciao.

    TP Joseph

    Hello, Hans, and thank you for the insights (as always). It's fun to speculate and play GM! I suspect there will be no free-agent signings, especially over a few million dollars. Of course, with an ex-Ray in charge now, the surprises and under-the-radar moves are bound to come. Prognostications and specifics: I'd like a move to get a cheap, MLB-ready catching prospect such as Edgar Quero from the White Sox. I'm not much on older catchers, especially at four or five times the price (a la Stallings). Regarding shortstop, stay with our internal options instead of the low-end or middling guys out there for a lot more money. Come the trade deadline next season with the Marlins in a middling season, Bell will be going, Chisholm will be hurt, and our pitching value will be at a peak. Ciao.

    TP Joseph

    After CLE acquired Hedges, I see the Bethancourt move as his direct replacement in my Blueprint: a glove-first catcher who should battle to make the team in Spring Training.

     

    Just like Mish said, they still should be looking for another reinforcement via Free Agency and maybe a waiver claim.

    I clicked the "reply* button unintentionally... this roster is closer to contending than every Opening Day starting lineup over the last 5 or 6 years, so rebuilding now doesn't make much sense.

     

    About Quero... He just completed AA, so I'm not sure if he deserves an MLB spot just yet. I would just roll with Banfield instead, as at least I know he can handle the pitching staff defensively.

     

    But the problem here is to get more offense. I really like the "let the kids play" approach, but the Marlins system is just not reliable enough when it comes to field players. In any case, I'll be just fine if they promote Amaya for the SS job in Miami.

    The 2023 before trade deadline lineup (record 58-51) was more or less:

     

    Arraez 2B

    Soler DH

    Cooper 1B

    Jazz CF (Davis played a lot of games)

    Segura 3B

    Garcia / Sanchez RF

    DLC LF

    Stallings C

    Wendle SS

     

    After trade deadline lineup (record 26-27):

     

    Arraez 2B

    Soler DH

    Bell 1B

    Jazz CF

    Burger 3B

    DLC LF

    Sanchez RF

    Fortes C

    Wendle / Berti / Hampson SS

     

    The proposed lineup in the FanPost is, on paper, much better than the first lineup, but probably not as good as the second one... I mean, Soler would be the most missed, however,

    as a group, Fraley, Grandal, Perdomo, and Farmer are again, on paper, better than DLC, Stallings, Wendle, and Soler.



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