Jump to content
Fish On First
  • Create Account

Recommended Posts

Fish On First Contributor
Posted

Veteran catcher Nick Fortes is far from the biggest name on the Miami Marlins roster, yet he's been at the center of an ongoing debate over the past few weeks. Should one of the organization's longest-tenured players be moved at the upcoming MLB trade deadline so that Miami's younger options can fully take over at the position?

Through 50 games this season, Fortes is slashing .252/.300/.360/.660 with two home runs and 10 RBI. He's been a reliable contact hitter as a Marlin and that has continued in 2025 with a 13.9% strikeout rate. More importantly, Fortes is a well-rounded defender. He ranks in the 89th percentile among MLB catchers in blocks above average, 73rd percentile in framing and 73rd percentile in pop time. He is under club control through 2028.

However, in those 50 games, Fortes has only 122 plate appearances. He is on pace for less playing time than he's had in any previous full season in the majors. That's because the Marlins have carried three catchers on their roster since Fortes returned from the injured list on May 4. Agustín Ramírez has started more than twice as many games as Fortes during that span (56 to 26). Liam Hicks continues to earn opportunities with his bat as well, part of the reason why Fortes has played only one complete game from start to finish so far in July.

The top position player prospect in the Marlins farm system, Joe Mack, is a catcher, too. Mack is already a league-average hitter against Triple-A competition as a 22-year-old and his defensive skill set earned him a 2024 Minor League Gold Glove. Even if Ramírez stops catching completely to become a designated hitter and first baseman, there isn't a clear fit for Fortes moving forward. He would be more useful to other teams.

It needs to be noted that midseason trades involving catchers aren't too common. This is because they are responsible for learning the strengths, weaknesses and tendencies of everybody on the pitching staff, and it takes time for those relationships to develop. The transition is much easier to make during the offseason.

The Tampa Bay Rays addressed their catching weakness two full months before the deadline, acquiring Matt Thaiss from the Chicago White Sox in exchange for prospect Dru Baker. Thaiss has had a similar career to Fortes—a little bit older, but more consistent as a hitter from year to year. Prior to the trade, he was slashing .212/.382/.294/.676 with one home run, eight RBI and a 104 wRC+. Through 18 games with the Rays, Thaiss has posted a 81 wRC+, but aside from his four blocks above average, he's been underwhelming defensively.

In smaller, more recent transactions, the Cincinnati Reds traded Austin Wynns to the Athletics for cash considerations and the Baltimore Orioles acquired former Marlins backstop Alex Jackson from the New York Yankees for a player to be named later or cash considerations. Fortes clearly has more value than either of them.

Among contending teams, the San Francisco Giants and the San Diego Padres could definitely use Fortes' services.

The Giants currently find themselves dead last in OPS and second to last in wRC+ at the catching position. As good as Patrick Bailey is defensively, he has been a clear liability in the lineup, slashing .193/.258/.292/.551 with two home runs, 26 RBI and a 56 wRC+. Bailey's offensive-minded backup was supposed to be Tom Murphy, but he's been sidelined all season due to a back injury.

On top of forming the best defensive catching tandem in baseball, Fortes would actually help the Giants with his bat.

The Padres split their catching duties between Martín Maldonado and Elias Díaz, who have both been awful statistically. That being said, their influence on one of the league's most successful pitching staffs cannot be ignored.

With Díaz and Maldonado being deep into their 30s, maybe the Padres would be interested in Fortes regardless as protection in case of an injury down the stretch. Keep in mind that Fortes still has minor league options remaining—he does not need to be forced onto the active roster right away. As we have seen, A.J. Preller doesn't hesitate to trade prospects in an effort to make his big league team slightly better.


View full article

  • 1 month later...
Posted

you name a bunch of trades. that had nothing to do with Marlins. that show you are willing to sale low.  Without answer to The Marlins have young talent ready to take over behind the plate. 

Right now you limted the Marlins to one real Catcher. without knowing how cather would react  in mlb . Meaning Cather ERA.  That why Agustín Ramírez is not real full time Catcher.  and I  can say he cost marlins 3  games this year. pitcher struggle more with him behind the plate.    Right now that not solving Marlins catcher problems . Just adding to it.     offsean maybe

Posted

The Marlins are catcher-rich right now, so it makes sense. Fortes is dependable and has come up with some timely hits. Moreover, I hate to mess with a good team chemistry. That said, we know the Bendix strategy of incremental improvement will not change. I see three or four guys moving at the deadline, including Cabrera. 

Posted

If the Marlins trade Nick Fortes, then that means Joe Mack is getting called up, with Liam Hicks backing him up. Worst case scenario, both Mack and Hicks get injured in the same game, Agustin could be the emergency catcher, but let's hope it doesn't get to that point.

Posted
On 7/12/2025 at 7:55 PM, One Regend said:

If the Marlins trade Nick Fortes, then that means Joe Mack is getting called up, with Liam Hicks backing him up. Worst case scenario, both Mack and Hicks get injured in the same game, Agustin could be the emergency catcher, but let's hope it doesn't get to that point.

Joe Mack would be third guy backing up Liam Hicks and Agustin.   if you trade Fortes that the plain. their be no call up till  injure  comes up at best.   Agustin is not a full Catcher . pitcher strugle with him . if you watch the games. im sure marlins got  plains to keep Joe Mack in minors.

if you look at Rays and  Bendix past  Nick Fortes is type catcher he likes. lets hope it stay the same for now.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
The Fish On First SuperSub Fund
The Fish On First SuperSub Fund

We're grinding to bring you complete Miami Marlins coverage! Please support this site so it can remain the top destination for Fish fans.

×
×
  • Create New...